Today I had a wonderful and very productive discussion in the facebook group named "Open Discussion about Federalism" that has 6,649 members. Immediately I posted below statement with the Plato's quote in the group then discussion started by Mr. Hemant Mainali from UK.
The reason WHY I love wine drinkers and kids!! :)
“There is truth in wine and children”
― Plato
Discussions:
Hemant Mainali (UK): They are both guided by their ego of winning and being superior. If they keep it to learning & educating in fair means they shall have some success.
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Hemant Mainali: Like a car Ho hai. Correction.
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Mitra Pariyar (PhD scholar from Sydney: Now there's a little inversion: Bahuns are the most drinkers, and yet claim higher status-sillly!
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Laxmi Tamang: Higher or lower castes as per the Manusmriti doesn't differentiate based on whether or not people drinks. Someone has to born to be a higher castes in that caste
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Yam B Chand (Canada): Laxmiji, Have you read Manusriti? Manusmriti allows marriage between Bramin man to all 4 caste women and also a Shudra to all 4 caste women, all legally. Their caste wouldn't have any problem, but children born will have a different castes. Men who marry outside caste wouldn't be deprived of their social priviledges. But in Nepal the Bahuns who made Code for Nepalis introduced death penalty for having sex by lower caste men to upper cate women, which was a kind of Taliban type Hinduism, just to control all masses by Ranas and Bahuns.
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Laxmi Tamang: Ho ya, Yam B Chand sir I love Manusmriti becuase it has completely opened my blocked eyes and mind, which I didn't know about it.
But had heard about it. I've to thank Rameshwori Pant dd for quoting two verses from the Manusmriti while she wrote the article titled "Manusmrit Ko Bato Ma Haro Samaj" published in Kantipur.
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Mitra Pariyar: Its no that rigid. you can lose your caste by marrying with someone non-Tamang, hoina...part of the reason why Bahun women are most suppressed, anthros say, is because they are wary of women interbreeding and diluting their caste. so, partly, caste is acquired as well...
Laxmi ji, have u read these on caste: Dumont (Homo Hierarchicus), MN Srinivas (invented the term Sanskritization), Fuller, Gopal Guru (JNU Dalit professor), etc
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Yam B Chand: But Mitraji, Tamangs claim they have caste system. It is only us, hindus who have this stinking system and culture
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Hemant Mainali: Laxmi ji, though I respect your views against manusmriti and discrimination related. We should not go against the book of manusmriti but against those who still practice the rules which is completely irrelevant and inhumane these days. As I have discussed some issues with my group of people. They say that the manusmriti no matter how bad it looks now. But it also sets some marale value of our culture and set of rules to last our genes for thousand of years. Whoever wrote it was not intently trying to discriminate the women and lower caste people. Knowledge only matters till the day a new greater knowledge comes to light. That does not mean it was all bad but a source of new knowledge. Like a at is so beneficial but same time it's smoke causing a greater harm. As told my some knowledge people of our faith.
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Mitra Pariyar: in a way, Hemant ji is right. Muslims are seen as conservative as mny of them try to follow the Prophet word for word. If Christians believe fully in bible, how could jesus be born without a fertilizing man? most ancient texts are irrelevant now, aren't they?
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Yam B Chand: Hemantji, I don't claim to have full texts of Manusmriti, but from what I have able to read so far, I am convinced that this book has been misinterpreted first our priests and secondly people who introduced First Civil Code of Nepal so badly that no one knows exactly what Manu wrote for Manav Jaati.
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Tenzing Limbu (Canada): I guess Manu was leader of the community those days and he use to make mistakes due to his selfishness and he has to cover himself from his misbehavior so everything bad or good he made the law from the God. There are many religious prophets they did same thing .
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Yam B Chand: Sorry Mitraji, I wanted to say Tamangs claim they have no caste system.
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Laxmi Tamang: Mitra Pariyar ji that's why I told you before you will be upgraded to higher caste once you complete your PhD. I'm not saying in my own but after reading an article titled "Hindu Samaj Ma Dalit Mukti Ko Prasana" written by Bishnu Bhakta Dulal (Aahuti) published in a book titled "Nepalma Varnabyabastaa ra Barga Sangharsha" by Samata Foundation, Lalitpur 2010 I knew it. Here you go of the 6 points mentioned by author about WHY Sudras are Silent despite 3000 years old caste based discrimination interestingly he pointed out that "The Brahmin and the Chhetri rulers carried on with the tricky ploy of inclusion of talented and courageous Sudras and Vaishyas in Brahman and Chhetri Varnas so that the Sudra and Vaishyas may remain leaderless and hence not united."
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Hemant Mainali: Yes I agree with you laxmi ji, To my knowledge a Brahman is a teacher and knowledgeable person. Who conducts himself to educate others and teaches people. Still if you study Sanskrit no matter which you caste you belong you can become acharya.
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Laxmi Tamang: Dalit community highly educated and talent people are so lucky because their caste can be upgraded .
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Yam B Chand: Again Tenzingji, I think you need to study about Manu before you make any such claim. It is the people who misinterpreted Hindu system in his name, to blame. I have found his version of Hinduism plain and simple, where a Shudra can marry legally a Brahman woman without suffering any social repurcissions, but his son's caste would now become Chandal, who burns and manages dead-bodies, similarly if a Brahman takes kshatriya woman, son would become a Kayastha, if marries a vaisya woman, son would be Kansakar, etc. etc., but unlike Jungbahadur's Code wouldn't lose caste (Brahman) or his head (Sudra). It is very intresting to study a real Manusmriti.
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Hemant Mainali: Our Nepali people suffered not because of Hinduism of ancient time. But rule of the country which belonged to ancient time.
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Phurpa Hyolmo Thhongso: Where can I read real Manu smriti ? Can anyone provide me the link ?
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Laxmi Tamang: Yam B Chand sir as far as I know Tamang haven't claim Caste system however Tamang has been influenced by Sanskritization. We are ethnic group not the caste group people. Caste are only 4 groups ho
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Hemant Mainali: A caste in today's society is bad thing but we still need Brahman people to continue our tradition and culture. An educated person who can teach is Brahman. Laxmi ji you are a Brahman in my view but not bahun.
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Laxmi Tamang: Phurpa Hyolmo Thhongso here you go http://www.hinduwebsite.com/sacredscripts/hinduism/dharma/manusmriti.asp
"Introduction to the Manusmriti the laws of Manu by George Buhler"
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Phurpa Hyolmo Thhongso: Laxmi Di Jyu, is it the real one ?
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Laxmi Tamang: Yes, Hamanta bro I'm a Tamang Brahman ho
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Mitra Pariyar: Laxmi ji, what an utter nonsense. which fool said PhD upgrades my caste? Dr Ambedkar's wasnt upgraded even though he was chair of the constitution drafting committee. I dont want an upgrade either because I consider myself no less than any caste, I refuse the hierarchy. Your words suggest u firmly accept caste system and hierarchy.
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Laxmi Tamang: Phurpa Hyolmo Thhongso bro if you are in Nepal you can buy and read the original one but still in different Indian sites you can find it. We've to cross check with other Manusmriti as well because in some they have deleted some verses
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Hemant Mainali: I meant you are educating & spreading knowledge as of the time which are very relevant for us. So in true sanataan dharma you are a Brahman.
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Mitra Pariyar: Its not good to argue from the perspective of one scripture or author...there are hundreds of other views bettr than this Ahuti's. Is he a moden day Rishi?
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Yam B Chand: Laxmiji, Exactly, Hinduism doesn't normally takes outsiders into Varnasram. As per our priests anyone born outside can practice Hinduism, he can't get caste, but she can be a hindu if married to a hindu.
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Laxmi Tamang: Hehehe! Mitra Pariyar ji you are not in India and Nepal they are converting ni as author claimed not me. I'm just interpresting it. Though I didn't know anything about Manusmriti 2 years before but I always used to say to my Bahun Friends I'm a Tamang Bahun and they used to say the same thing to me Hemant Mainali bro
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Mitra Pariyar: Hemant ji, i recently read Dor Bahadur Bista's Fatalism and Development, where he says a similar thing. when Bahuns. sme, they were poor immigrants. The rulers of that time used Bahuns philosophies to keep the masses suressed - he says.
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Hemant Mainali: Mitra ji, bahun are still doing the same in name of politics. They left their religion now following the politics. Religion itself was a politics of ancient time as I understand & believe. Which made rules to the society and governance .
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Laxmi Tamang: To learn about your own caste Mitra Pariyar ji it is your duty to find out in depth and shared to us because as far as I know his article has been studying in Nepal by MA sociology and anthropology students. Indian scholars write up in the context of Nepal is not applicable as already stated by Yam B Chand sir for the Sanskritization of other castes/ethnicity in Nepal
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Phurpa Hyolmo Thhongso: I am really enjoying the discussion of scholars....
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Laxmi Tamang: Hemant Mainali ji I'm not going against Manusmriti and how I can go against it because that has taught me so many things and opened by Blocked eyds and mind regarding Caste and Gender Based Discrimination and others as well how the world has been created by Brahman who raped own daughter, Sarsawati. I'm just against those Who love to cling those outdated verses and still blindly practicing it without rationalizing it.
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Tenzing Limbu: हामी आफैमा हिनताको बोध नगरौ अरुले गर्न सक्ने काम हामी पनि गर्न सक्छौ मात्र हामीमा जाँगर र आत्मबिश्वास को खाँचो छ l सम्भावना प्रसस्तै छन् कल्पना गरेर मात्र पुग्दैन तेस्लाई पहल त गर्ने पर्छ l
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Yam B Chand: Hemantji/Mitraji, With reference to Late Dorbahadur Bista or otherwise, there are principally two types of real Brahmans in Nepal. First those real Brahmans who migrated from India and converted Malla Kings and their subjects, and second those who were before Shamanist Priests of Khas people, later converted to Hindu Bahuns. These converted Bahun's were more intelligent and also more cunning. Maharani Kausalyavati, mother of King PN Shah knew this so she secretly made Mishra Brahman, Guru for King PN Shah, so that Gorkha palace wouldn't have palace intrugues, but alas! At later time this fact was overlooked and Bahuns helped Jungbahadur to stage "Kotparva" and country went to dark era for a Century plus years and Nepali mass suffered like this.
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Laxmi Tamang: Yesterday Bashu Dev Lohani ji shared The Lecture delivered on 26 Feb. 2011 by Nicholas Kazanas at IIT, Madras.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyN0zs_tBRY ""The collapse of Aryan Invasion Theory and the prevalence of Indigenism. (1/3)" saying " The Hindus have tried to wipe out cultural identities of many ethnic groups in the Indian subcontinent, but I don't think the so called Aryans came from outside the Indian Subcontinent. The Aryans have been wrongly portrayed as a race due to European misappropriation of Sanskrit; they think anything that is beautiful must be theirs.
Hemant Mainali: The books of any religion is like constitution of today. Which sets rules to live by & awards rights & authority. But equally it seems very inhumane & outdated which true. But some still applies and relevant. Like our patents they may be old and not energetic but they made us knowledgeable & a good person.
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Laxmi Tamang: It is worth going through this lecture to know the deeper understanding of Sanskritization of India. Exactly! Hemant Mainali ji. That's WHY I love Secular nation
Whether we agree or disagree it is an individual choice.
BUT I firmly believe that We are the CAUSE of our own suffering and pain because we don't want to be hurted knowing the FACTS and TRUTHS!
To STOP/END the PAIN, Suffering, Crimes and Voilence related to Caste and Gender-based discrmination those people who think, feel, believe and experience that they are suffering they themselves FIRST need to CHANGE their belief system since they are the one who knowingly and unknowingly promoting their PAIN, Suffering, and Violences because they don't want to accept the facts and hurt on their belief system.
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Tenzing Limbu: Hemant ji I do agree it was their constitution and they were benefiting certain group or community. Modern constitution benefits the entire country and human rights.
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Laxmi Tamang: If human pain and suffering MUST END in this world then human being MUST STOP being too much religous because to date whatever, whereever and whenever power struggling and conflicts had taken place is directly connected with the POWER hungers POWERFUL WEAPON known as "RELIGION".
It seems as if a lot of the world's problems stem of that which is suppose to practice love and tolerance being a religious. However, througout history there has always been death, destruction and atrocities in the name of some lord "GOD" or another.
Does anyone think we will ever get to the point in society where religion is an afterthought? I am not trying to insult anyone's beliefs, but I am curious ......why believe?
I would like a more indepth analysis other than "you'd go to hell if you didn't". Appreciate any feed back......be kind! Thank you!!
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Tenzing Limbu: All pain is gain if it stops law of universe will stop then ??????
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Phurpa Hyolmo Thhongso: According to Ambedkar, Buddhism fulfilled these requirements and so among the existing religions it was the only suitable religion for the world. He felt that the propagation of Buddhism needed a Bible. Apparently, Ambedkar wrote The Buddha and his Dhamma to fulfill this need.
In the same article, Ambedkar has enumerated the evils of Hinduism in the following manner:
1. It has deprived moral life of freedom.
2. It has only emphasized conformity to commands.
3. The laws are unjust because they are not the same for one class as of another. Besides, the code is treated as final.
According to Ambedkar, "what is called religion by Hindus is nothing but a multitude of commands and prohibitions."
In the same year, Ambedkar delivered a speech on Buddha Jayanti day in Delhi, in which he attacked Hindu gods and goddess and praised Buddhism because it was a religion based on moral principles. Besides, he pointed out, unlike the founders of other religions who considered themselves emissaries of god; the Buddha regarded himself only as a guide and gave a revolutionary meaning to the concept of religion. He said that Hinduism stood for inequality, whereas Buddhism stood for equality.
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Phurpa Hyolmo Thhongso: "Why Dr. Ambedkar renounced Hinduism?" accessed from http://www.ambedkar.org/Babasaheb/Why.htm
Hemant Mainali: Tenzing ji, I can see Sai baba in your photo & my understanding & beliefs are similar & inspired by him. Specially uniting all religion.
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Yam B Chand: Laxmiji, I personally feel that Hinduism doesn't allow conversion, rather hindus made outcastes to so many royal castes to non-Hindus for not adhering to dayly practice of hindu rituals or refusing to pay royalties? to priests, like Yadav, Jat, Gujjars, Meena and so on (these all caste were royals before, but became non hindus). To say hindus wiped out ethnic culture may not be appropriate.
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Laxmi Tamang: One of the lawyers (Mr. Adhikari) while I was in Nepal suggested me reading "The Manab Nyaya Shastra" since it is the first codified law of Nepal. It was written during the Malla Dynasty, which is known to be the 5th dynasty of Nepal. It was written by King Jayasthiti Malla in the 14th century along with the help of five learned Indian Brahmin persons; Kirtinath Upadhyaya Kanyakubja, Raghunath Jha Maithili, Srinath Bhatta, Mahinath Bhatta, and Ramanath Jha. The Manab Nyaya Shastra was consequently written after the study of Manu Smriti, Yagyawalkya Smriti, Mitachhyara Tika, Brihaspati Smriti, Narad Smriti and other holy texts. It was written concentrating on the practices that prevailed in the society then. The Manab Nyaya Shastra has introduced many legal provisions regarding houses, lands, castes, dead bodies etc. It was the major source of rendering justice during the medieval period. Much influence of religion can be found in the laws then. Source: Khanal Rewatiraman,Nepal ko Kanuni Itihash ko Ruprekha
And based on Manab Nyaya Shastra our Muluki Ain has been written as he said that has copied and pasted Manusmriti verses
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Hemant Mainali: Yam ji, Hinduism has advanced & changed its old rules. You can find proper bahun & priest in Wales. They are proper white welsh people a whole villages is Hindu and practice and worship Kali, shiva, and all kind of temples are there.
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Laxmi Tamang: Hip Hip! Hurray! That's WHY I'm now standing to raise voice against those verses deeply rooted from the Law of Manu that promoted discrimination even in this 21st century
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Tenzing Limbu: All laws changes over the time why religious beliefs remain unchanged ?
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Laxmi Tamang :Hemant Mainali ji religions never ever going to unite. We've to unite ourselves. Our mind has to be unite
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Hemant Mainali :Uniting in understanding mutual respect and communal tolerances. A proper secularism.
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Laxmi Tamang: Tenzing Limbu ji it is due to FEAR of LOOSING POWER and BELIEF because that hurts our sentiment and deeply embedded belief
We've to have a faith on the Dharma of Natural Law NOT the man-made religion to control our MIND creating FEAR of HELL and HEAVEN. Please read visit "Scientists Prove That All Religious Books Are Man-Made Nonsense" from http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/sci_tech/3102-scientists-prove-that-all-religious-books-are-man-made-nonsense.html
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Hemant Mainali: We should read about our Nepali writer mr Subba about bhayabad. Which is very inspiring and greater knowledge of understanding our society.
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Yam B Chand: King Jayshiti Malla was not a Malla in reality, but a Prince of Tirhut married to sovereign Princess Rajalladevi Malla, as her father had no son. Naturally he brought all of these Brahmans from Tirhut and Mithila to design Manusmriti based 64 castes (I don't know what really this means) for Kathmandu valley. As I said Manusmriti was just misintreted at that time making 64 castes. and socondly Manusmriti was again misinterpreted when Muluki Ain of 1854, degrading every other castes than tagadharis.
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Laxmi Tamang: We can listen about Mr. Desh Subbha talk about FEARISM from here as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn8dM0c_law&feature=share
Yes, Yam B Chand sir many Newar think Jayshit Malla is a Newar but in reality he was a Chhetri from India
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Hemant Mainali: Yam ji , how did the name Nepal originated? I think it is Newari name. Cos my grands used to call Kathmandu by Nepal.
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Tenzing Limbu :Our modern science is not only truth, it cannot fully prove God and belief are wrong because universe is beyond the discovery of science and understanding . Therefore, I just like to say there are many possibilities anything I do not know.
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Laxmi Tamang :Always Little Knowledge is Danger Bhan thiyo ho rahe chha ba. Am realizing know. We've been making so many mistake blaming and claiming others without knowing the facts.
Hahahahaha! God! Oh Gosh! Who is a God! Who created a God!
All human being created him and said God! We all are God ourselves
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Tenzing Limbu: Well, little knowledge can be dangerous if we use but if we realize I have little knowledge then learning part is always open.
What is the full meaning of God ?
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Hemant Mainali: God is what you make of it. I believe in god itself is a suspicion of god. So nobody has found it. If god is the absolute truth what is the need to believe in. I believe in god because of the creation.
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Yam B Chand: Laxmiji, You are right. Kathmandu valley was in political turmoil at the time when Jayshiti Malla married Rajalladevi. Most of present day Newars (on FB) despise him as he gave them so many castes. It is not that Hinduism was not there in Kathmandu valley before King Jaysthiti Malla, but life was easier. There was a mix of Hinduism, Buddhism and Animism/Ghost worship, but after this new code they were virtually under Hindu priests.
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Tenzing Limbu: I believe God is a powerful thing which can manifest anything it can make anything happen.\
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Laxmi Tamang: Sanskritization of Newar community cleaver Indian Bahun/Chhetri not you guys hai. I believe myself as a god since I believe in evolution and nature and natural law. So far haven't seen anything made by god. I want to live in a reality not the fantasy and illusion and dellusion created by our belief and mind though I respect others views as well since it is a matter of individual choice
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Tenzing Limbu: I believe God is in dust to dust too. Laximi ji there are so many fantasy but we can see the action which happens but we cannot explain with our modern science.
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Laxmi Tamang :Hemant Mainali ji unfortunately Desh Subba book has not yet publish but he said he has address all the issues. I believe in science and spirituality not the man-made religion and God sorry hai because I believe in cause and effect relationship as per the natural law
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Yam B Chand :I also don't believe in God, but it is OK for most people to accept God's entity, as it is said empty mind is devil's workshop, and if people spend some of their spare time thinking about God, some bad thinking may be avoided, but this is only my opinion.
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Hemant Mainali: I only saw a bit of talk show which seemed a great knowledgeable person. As he was trying to explain Marxism in new way & betterway.
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Laxmi Tamang :For those who doesn't have anything to think in their mind is good to fill with filthy and other man's ideas I suppose, which are "Bhad" and "Religions" and God
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Tenzing Limbu :Laximi ji I agree with you religions are all law and order of those old days
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Laxmi Tamang: My MIND by birth is FREE so WHY I need to fill with all scraps
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Hemant Mainali: Yam B Chand ji plz my query about the name of our country.
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Laxmi Tamang: I use my brain and think as per my wish as per the nature gifted qualities learning from the nature
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Tenzing Limbu :As long as we do not harm nobody and deprive others rights that is good.
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Laxmi Tamang: Nepal is going backward and 250 years behind than developed nations like Japan, singapore, etc because people are more than unnecessariliy religious and same goes to India despite ruled by British more than 250 years they are still in STONE AGE thoughts
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Hemant Mainali :Laxmi ji, what goes in your mind does not depend entirely on you. So religion is important in some respect to teach you a lot of morale of our life. A baby is baby with education and right environment becomes a great person.
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Laxmi Tamang : If I can learn from Nature more than what has been written in religious books then WHY I've to hooked up with religion Hemant Mainali ji.
Because realized that Religious books have been written by intelligent mind learning from the nature understanding the POWER of FEMININE because by birth FEMINE is equal as Maculine in MIND not the body hai.
Thanks everyone within a hour we've very productive discussions on the topic starting from Plato qutoe 'Wine" and end up with Religion and God!
Hehehehe! while having discussion with you guys I was also having a chat with Desh Subba about his write up on "FEARISM"
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Hemant Mainali: Laxmi ji, you might find me funny but it is important to have some religion in life as it is the source of our human life & culture. Which sets a proper rule of morale values, marriage values & relationship value. So I do not follow religion to please god but practice to better my life.
Say hello from my side to desh subba people like him can bring greater change than politicians.
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Tenzing Limbu: आध्यात्मिक चिन्तन जीवन थाकेको बेला बिसाउने चौतारी हो
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Laxmi Tamang :Hemant Mainali ji I'm a non-religious person but respect all good verses of all religions but don't hooked up doing rituals based on religious norms. From the very childhood I was skeptical with religions and always had question is religion is for Rich and Male. Otherwise WHY poor can't afford to go to Temples and Why women are not priests
Tenzing Limbu ji आध्यात्मिक and Dharmic (Religious) are two different things ho and I LOVE the आध्यात्मिक part NOT the religion.
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Tenzing Limbu :When time comes we will understand the spiritual value
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Yam B Chand: OMG! Laxmiji, I was not saying about you and me, we both are non-believer in God. I was saying about people who want to believe in God, which means they at least do something when they think about God and spend their spare time. You and me have so many things to keep us busy all the time.
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Laxmi Tamang :Oh na hau Yam B Chand sir what I said that made you to "OMG"
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Tenzing Limbu: I am not religious but I love spiritual discovery .
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Hemant Mainali: Laxmi ji, if I call you Didi it is because of religion not because of my own belief. The human life is definitely attached to religious belief but we need to amend things as time progresses.
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Laxmi Tamang: Tenzing Limbu ji same me too
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Yam B Chand: Good verses as well principles of almost all religions are very attractive, but if you go deep, I think, all preach the same thing, fight for your religion, because yours is the supreme.
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Tenzing Limbu: Religions are the groups of political parties.
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Laxmi Tamang: Anyway, I love philogophical thoughts based on the nature and natural law and that is my religion not the made by men such as Buddhism, Hinduism, Christinanity, Islamic, Jewish, etc. Religions are made by POWER hungers to GENERATE FEAR among HUMAN being
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Tenzing Limbu: All religions are based on some truth but more law and order.
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Hemant Mainali: Spiritual belief is advanced belief & progression of religion. Where all corrupt beliefs are erased and but more purer.
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Laxmi Tamang: Cool Desh Subbha ji just shared his bolg http://www.fearism.blogspot.com
Tenzing Limbu There are many told and untold spiritual discoveries which is very independent and interesting. Tenzing Limbu ji "All religions are based on some truth but more law and order." It is not 100% true hai
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Heman Mainali: I think we need religion for our family rules and morale discipline. But spiritual is ultimate.
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Laxmi Tamang :Desh Subba ji said "You can see three books in the fesrism, many articles, kantipur daily, annapurna post daily, kantopur fm, bijayapur fm interviiew, other people has written many articles, only main book of fearism not publish. It will publish soon. now it is in sikkim university master degree course"
I love Spirituality and We generally mix up Spirituality and Religion which are different in reality but we are living in Fantasy and illusion and dellusion so thought they are same
Hemant Mainali ji Religion is to control ignorant and innocent mind ho. In Japan they don't have religion and my youngest sister-in-law is a Japanese ho to whom am I living here in Sydney
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Tenzing Limbu: As Hemant ji mentioned religion is only for moral and discipline family but we can enjoy on spiritual meditation.
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Laxmi Tamang: Hemant Mainali ji that moral (religion) is making our girls and dalit inhumane in India and Nepal
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Hemant Mainali: When I say something that is of my understanding but when I experience something new my belief may change. So far I believe religion is important to discipline our life. Where as spiritual is to let go and enjoy the eternal. I think.
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Tenzing Limbu: Hemant ji not bad idea I liked it ha ha ha
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Laxmi Tamang: In terms of development and evolution WHY India and Nepal being so much religious countreis can't produce great mind people who influence world thoughts and challenge their belief in a positive way except Buddha. I don't compare Gandhi because he studied in UK.
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Tenzing Limbu: Because of notorious Manu's theory I guess.
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Yam B Chand: Howabout Rabindra Tagore who refused Nobel Prize for Litreture, just because whites were ruling his country.
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Laxmi Tamang: It is so funny I've to Indian facebook friends one is a businessman and Manisha Koirala very close friend who knows detail about Islamic verses/allah being a Hindu and another one who is a Muslim knows every things about Hindu and Hindu gods. They don't debate among each other because they realized that they'll be both can't win due to the weaknesses in their religions. And I'm learning from both and now that my Hindu friend realized he has to do something for Humanity-Girls trafficking
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Laxmi Tamang: They are very hot in their arguments but Umesh ji Failed in his discussions
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Yam B Chand: Hemantaji, I am not sure about the origin of the name Nepal. Those believing Ne Muni say it is because of his name, but some say due to people Newars or Nairs, but there is no similarity between Keralite Nairs and our Newars. Newars sometimes say they are from Tibet and yet some others say they came from India. Buddhists say Valley was drained of water by Manjushree and Hindus say it was done by Lord Krishna with his Sudarshan Chakra. I am so confused.
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Laxmi Tamang Yam B Chand sir confusion is a starting point towards wisdom ho because we search for reasons and answers which is great
Anyway, I took the advantage from them because I used to say NO OPINION Please only facts, figures and evidences based on what we have and it also helped me to discuss about topic of my research as well as country issues that we've
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Hemant Mainali: So laxmi ji, how much your religion plays a part in your life? Do you conduct your life to some extent as of your religion or not?
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Laxmi Tamang: I strongly believe if Nepal can be made as a SPIRITUAL naton rather than HINDU nation We can be one of the best nation in terms of moral conduct and prosperity in the world
Religion doesn't play a single part in my life because I'm not a religious person. I used to distance my self from Lama guru and their religous ceremoniies at home or else always because I used to ask Question to them but they didn't answer my concern satisfactorily and I don't go to Mandir to worship. However, as a fun and tourist I go with my friends and mum sometime to give them accompany that's it
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Hemant Mainali: I agree with you laxmi ji, in ancient time Nepal was a spiritual place for sages and gods. Many rishi Maharishi have used Nepal as their spiritual meditating place.
So if a baby is born or marriage ceremony and such events how are these conducted?
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Laxmi Tamang: Spiritual person respects ALL religions BUT religious person they don't respect and accept all religions
Hemant Mainali ji in my family we don't do any such rituals. We are very progressive family. All 3 brothers married in their own ways and had their kids without Lamas gurus name giving. My mum aged 76 counts bid that's it we don't do yearly rituals as well. However, dad funeral had done with Lama from Tibetan and he was very progressive as well. Told my brothers if you can abstain from Water then don't eat salt because salt is the produce of ocean/sea (water). He suugested to us if you killed your Aatma then no good so if you feel like eating something you can eat no need to refrain. He also told us not to cry because for the death person Spirit to travel our TEARS will be like a Strome on its path because after death Spiriti is so ferzile and will creaate problem to go to heaven as he said so we didn't cry except sobbing.
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Yam B Chand: Yes Laxmiji, I can understand by your name, and you said your dad was in British army. I am a four generation Gorkha soldier and I have no different family background than most janjaati commenters here, but they think I am one of the ruling elite. My forefathers became Lahore for survival, as the whole country was Rana Oligarchy and who didn't suffer during those dark days?
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Hemant Mainali: Laxmi ji, religion is important for those reasons to keep the tradition and close family members in some order of respect & discipline. I totally respect your progressive life and not follow exactly of religious views. But like I said religion is important for disciplined life and keep the tradition of family and culture. Does not mean we can not be progressive and leave orthodox values.
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Laxmi Tamang: Hemant Mainali ji then WHAT do you think about Japan because Japanese people have much good moral and had great (disciplined) culture than any other people in the world. It depends upon individual how religious they are to answer your questions.
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Hemant Mainali: Well I can not speak about Japanese because I have no knowledge of them. But they do have religion,don't they? Japan is very rich culturally I guess. What is their cultural values based on?
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Yam B Chand: I think Japanese people also believe in Buddhist and Shinto culture. Foremost they believe in discipline, hardwork and patriotism. They also believe in seppeku and harakiri, which means they commit suicide if they fail their nation or their mission.
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Laxmi Tamang: Japanese are not religious people as far as I know that's why they respect all religions. However, they have influenced of both Buddhism and Christinanity. I believe on Cause and Effect relationship rather than Myths. So, I don't blindly follow and bel...See More
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Hemant Mainali: Yes I heard suicide is a major social issues in Japan as well as self harm. But I kind of believe a culture evolves from religious values. I think religion does not have to big and popular for cultural advancement. Japan's hard working and committed to it's mission culture got to be something to do with it's marshal art and warrior belief of ancient religion/culture.
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Laxmi Tamang: Suicide is a major problems of Japanese youths due to high competition. Has nothing to do with religion because in Nepal also suicide is in increasing trend. While talking about any issues we've to think holistically not in a sterotype way with our predetermined mindset. We've to be a FREE thinker to fully utilize our mind function
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Tenzing Limbu: Because of lack of spiritual practice.
Spiritual practice is the platform can help realise the reality and live with happiness,
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Laxmi Tamang: Exactly! Spirtual practice such as Meditation only can calm down our mind that creates happiness and satisfaction and peace in mind
We ususally say Today I've a Peace of Mind when we are satisfy
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Hemant Mainali: But how does a spiritual value originate? Such meditation and spiritual value evolved through Buddhism & Hinduism. I think.
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Tenzing Limbu: Creates hope and value of life
Meditation comes from anything we trust.
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Laxmi Tamang: As far as I know Siddhartha Gautam being a King son from Chhetri clan got all the knoweldge of Veda from Brahmin thus went to search the answers for human pain and suffering and tried each and every means as said in Veda and else holy scriptures but couldn't find answers. Thus decided to go for Meditation and got the wisdom and answers of pain and suffering. This meditation is called Vipassana and western world and pyschologist named it "Mindfulness"
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I learned about Mindfulness here at the University with psychologist so funny
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Tenzing Limbu: Buddha he learnt by pain and suffering while did his meditation (deep research) and he realized the theory of " Realize the reality and live with happiness"
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Hemant Mainali: Yes but how did meditation come to be popular and successful. Because it was taught by Hindu religion budhhist religion. So spirituality in religion must happen which means a purer form of religion. To think of inner soul itself is finding peace & happiness.
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Tenzing Limbu: Religion they used part of spirituality to engage the people in religion.
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Laxmi Tamang: Heheehe! Hemant Mainali ji your MIND has been preoccupied by religion. Your mind is not FREE hai
Nepal has to make a spiritual world rather than religous hub because spiritual attracts everyone and religion distance everyone
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Hemant Mainali: Why is Dalai Lama not wanting to be like a politician? Because he is a spiritual guru & his way of ruling is by religion. Which seems very good so far no discrimination as I heard.
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Tenzing Limbu: If you contemplate history of spirituality all sages they meditated in Nepal from Vedic time.
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Laxmi Tamang: Hemant Mainali ji as far as I know in Hindu they talk about soul but in Buddhism they talk about Spirit
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Tenzing Limbu: Soul and spirit they are two words but they are same .
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Laxmi Tamang: Hemant Mainali ji Dalai Lama is not a spiritual leader though people say. In reality he is a politician and a King of Tibet and religous leader thus used Buddha philosophy as a Weapon to fight against China luring the ignorant mind of th world.
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Laxmi Tamang: In the history almost all kings used Religions as a WEAPON to fool, bull and rule over innocent and ignorant mass because reason can wash people mind so easily creating FEAR of HELL and HEAVEN
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Tenzing Limbu: In fact I agree with Laximi ji
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Hemant Mainali: I am not talking about Hinduism but all religion. I have strong belief in religion because all religion teaches to be good and humane. But we must keep our religion practicing to keep our values intact. If we give up religion all together it is not going to do good. A gradual change must come but life without religious values may not be a good thing. This applies to all religion.
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Laxmi Tamang: I don't have any faith on Dalai Lama because he lied about Buddha birth place to cheer up India where he is living as a refugee. However, I admire his wisdom
Spiritual people they never ever lie and speak the truth based on the available facts and natural law without any FEAR without manipulating ignorant mind to fool, bull and rule over them. They are not greedy and selifish
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Hemant Mainali: Spiritual people become spiritual because of what laxmi ji? A religion plays a vital role to make one spiritual.
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Tenzing Limbu: Laximi ji I just want to share my experience about Dalai Lama miracle happened with me numbers of years ago. One day I was driving in busiest high way in Canada suddenly I was blacked out and I could not see anything suddenly "Om mane padme hum" it came out from my mouth and I have seen vision of Dalai Lama out of blue and after sometime my vision came back. Those days I had sickness of dizziness it just use to pop out without knowingly. Since that incident I do not have that sickness and I consider him one of my guru.
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Laxmi Tamang: Free minds without any prejudice trying to understand truths for humanity and peace learning from the natural laws praticing mental calmness exercise i.e. meditation make them spiritual I suppose. Hemant Mainali ji try to find out in Sanatan Dharma most of the verses you can see written based on the natural law. Tell me how made natural law and who made religions
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Hemant Mainali: A free mind is important to be spiritual. The way I understand is religion is a seed &spiritual is a fruit. If you don't have a religion to be based on there is no spirituality. I think.
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Laxmi Tamang: After 1000 years people might consider Dalai Lama as a God like people consider Buddha as a God though Buddha said he was not a God but an awaken person
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Tenzing Limbu: We are so use to base religion with spirituality therefore it may take us time to free our mind from our daily practice. Buddha is considered a God because of his good did I guess.
I am not Buddhist and my religion is universal I do respect good things in all religions and I do not have any obligation in any religion but my incident with Dalai Lama is something miracle to me.
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Laxmi Tamang: It is just the other way around ho Hemant Mainali bro. To understand and learn about spirituality is not an easy task because it is the path of Truth to understand and founds fantasy thus many people don't like to talk about spirituality. However to talk about the religion is like an opium as said by Karl Marx because people are mostly neurotic in their attitude and behavour love to follow easy path because everything has been ready made.
I'm not a religious nor I'm a Buddhist. I'm learning to be a Free thinker that's it because I love learning and understanding the reality
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Hemant Mainali: Laxmi ji, is being spiritual means what?
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Laxmi Tamang: Tenzing Limbu ji it is due to his positive vibe that's attracted your mind
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Tenzing Limbu: Hemant ji spirituality means ease the stress of life by understanding truth and remain happy.
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Laxmi Tamang: True spiritual people in any cost can't be Negative and Can refrain self from any luxury of modern world. However religious gurus they can't thus we frequently hear their attitude and behavior connected with SEX and Sexual scandals. Religious gurus are after MONEY and CROWD but spiritual leaders are after peace and satifaction and happiness of all. I hope you know the Law of Attraction based on the natural law Tenzing Limbu ji.
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Tenzing Limbu: My truth with Dalai Lama was I was never impressed before this incident.
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Hemant Mainali: Yes to be such spiritual person the knowledge & wisdom must be based on religion. If there was no religion & godly value . Spirituality would not exist. I may be wrong but my poor belief.
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Tenzing Limbu: My belief in spirituality consist of all universal actions therefore, how a spiritual person can stay away from the physical reality ?
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Laxmi Tamang: Hemant Mainali bro, Umesh ji sanga mit lagaudha hunchha hai because you couldn't free your mind despite being an educated man knowing about many issues. We've to learn to make our mind like of a Child (free mind) only then we can pour anything in our brain/head. Spirituality is a highest form of self (mental state/mind) awakening of human being ho so hardly very few people are spiritual in this world.
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Hemant Mainali: Yes laxmi ji, hence I am questioning like a child. I want to learn & being a Hindu follower it's difficult probably.
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Laxmi Tamang: All religious gurus, monks, nuns, priests, etc are not spiritually awaken and mostly they are involve in religious politics.
Have you ever heard of Spiritual politics but we heard and read about religious politics. Religion is all about POWER and POLITICS to control mass and their mind as per the interest of the state and ruling mentality people
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Tenzing Limbu: Many may be involved unknowingly with blind faith too.
Spirituality is the wisdom and people may use that for their any means of benefit.
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Laxmi Tamang: I've one of my friends who is doing a PhD Ms. Kafle at Banaras Hindu University and I learned a lot from her as well about spirituality. She is completely against religion and related rituals but am not like that.
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Tenzing Limbu: well, it depends on individual we all are not in same plane
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Laxmi Tamang: The incidents of crimes related to SEX, Drugs, Alcohol, etc can be controlled massively if we teach our children from schools about spirituality rather than from home to become a religious and Nepal can give a good education to the world I suppose. We'll have peace and prosperity in a diverse settings
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Tenzing Limbu: If we try it might work.
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The reason WHY I love wine drinkers and kids!! :)
“There is truth in wine and children”
― Plato
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Hemant Mainali (UK): They are both guided by their ego of winning and being superior. If they keep it to learning & educating in fair means they shall have some success.
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Hemant Mainali: Like a car Ho hai. Correction.
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Mitra Pariyar (PhD scholar from Sydney: Now there's a little inversion: Bahuns are the most drinkers, and yet claim higher status-sillly!
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Laxmi Tamang: Higher or lower castes as per the Manusmriti doesn't differentiate based on whether or not people drinks. Someone has to born to be a higher castes in that caste
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Yam B Chand (Canada): Laxmiji, Have you read Manusriti? Manusmriti allows marriage between Bramin man to all 4 caste women and also a Shudra to all 4 caste women, all legally. Their caste wouldn't have any problem, but children born will have a different castes. Men who marry outside caste wouldn't be deprived of their social priviledges. But in Nepal the Bahuns who made Code for Nepalis introduced death penalty for having sex by lower caste men to upper cate women, which was a kind of Taliban type Hinduism, just to control all masses by Ranas and Bahuns.
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Laxmi Tamang: Ho ya, Yam B Chand sir I love Manusmriti becuase it has completely opened my blocked eyes and mind, which I didn't know about it.
But had heard about it. I've to thank Rameshwori Pant dd for quoting two verses from the Manusmriti while she wrote the article titled "Manusmrit Ko Bato Ma Haro Samaj" published in Kantipur.
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Mitra Pariyar: Its no that rigid. you can lose your caste by marrying with someone non-Tamang, hoina...part of the reason why Bahun women are most suppressed, anthros say, is because they are wary of women interbreeding and diluting their caste. so, partly, caste is acquired as well...
Laxmi ji, have u read these on caste: Dumont (Homo Hierarchicus), MN Srinivas (invented the term Sanskritization), Fuller, Gopal Guru (JNU Dalit professor), etc
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Yam B Chand: But Mitraji, Tamangs claim they have caste system. It is only us, hindus who have this stinking system and culture
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Hemant Mainali: Laxmi ji, though I respect your views against manusmriti and discrimination related. We should not go against the book of manusmriti but against those who still practice the rules which is completely irrelevant and inhumane these days. As I have discussed some issues with my group of people. They say that the manusmriti no matter how bad it looks now. But it also sets some marale value of our culture and set of rules to last our genes for thousand of years. Whoever wrote it was not intently trying to discriminate the women and lower caste people. Knowledge only matters till the day a new greater knowledge comes to light. That does not mean it was all bad but a source of new knowledge. Like a at is so beneficial but same time it's smoke causing a greater harm. As told my some knowledge people of our faith.
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Mitra Pariyar: in a way, Hemant ji is right. Muslims are seen as conservative as mny of them try to follow the Prophet word for word. If Christians believe fully in bible, how could jesus be born without a fertilizing man? most ancient texts are irrelevant now, aren't they?
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Yam B Chand: Hemantji, I don't claim to have full texts of Manusmriti, but from what I have able to read so far, I am convinced that this book has been misinterpreted first our priests and secondly people who introduced First Civil Code of Nepal so badly that no one knows exactly what Manu wrote for Manav Jaati.
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Tenzing Limbu (Canada): I guess Manu was leader of the community those days and he use to make mistakes due to his selfishness and he has to cover himself from his misbehavior so everything bad or good he made the law from the God. There are many religious prophets they did same thing .
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Yam B Chand: Sorry Mitraji, I wanted to say Tamangs claim they have no caste system.
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Laxmi Tamang: Mitra Pariyar ji that's why I told you before you will be upgraded to higher caste once you complete your PhD. I'm not saying in my own but after reading an article titled "Hindu Samaj Ma Dalit Mukti Ko Prasana" written by Bishnu Bhakta Dulal (Aahuti) published in a book titled "Nepalma Varnabyabastaa ra Barga Sangharsha" by Samata Foundation, Lalitpur 2010 I knew it. Here you go of the 6 points mentioned by author about WHY Sudras are Silent despite 3000 years old caste based discrimination interestingly he pointed out that "The Brahmin and the Chhetri rulers carried on with the tricky ploy of inclusion of talented and courageous Sudras and Vaishyas in Brahman and Chhetri Varnas so that the Sudra and Vaishyas may remain leaderless and hence not united."
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Hemant Mainali: Yes I agree with you laxmi ji, To my knowledge a Brahman is a teacher and knowledgeable person. Who conducts himself to educate others and teaches people. Still if you study Sanskrit no matter which you caste you belong you can become acharya.
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Laxmi Tamang: Dalit community highly educated and talent people are so lucky because their caste can be upgraded .
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Yam B Chand: Again Tenzingji, I think you need to study about Manu before you make any such claim. It is the people who misinterpreted Hindu system in his name, to blame. I have found his version of Hinduism plain and simple, where a Shudra can marry legally a Brahman woman without suffering any social repurcissions, but his son's caste would now become Chandal, who burns and manages dead-bodies, similarly if a Brahman takes kshatriya woman, son would become a Kayastha, if marries a vaisya woman, son would be Kansakar, etc. etc., but unlike Jungbahadur's Code wouldn't lose caste (Brahman) or his head (Sudra). It is very intresting to study a real Manusmriti.
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Hemant Mainali: Our Nepali people suffered not because of Hinduism of ancient time. But rule of the country which belonged to ancient time.
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Phurpa Hyolmo Thhongso: Where can I read real Manu smriti ? Can anyone provide me the link ?
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Laxmi Tamang: Yam B Chand sir as far as I know Tamang haven't claim Caste system however Tamang has been influenced by Sanskritization. We are ethnic group not the caste group people. Caste are only 4 groups ho
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Hemant Mainali: A caste in today's society is bad thing but we still need Brahman people to continue our tradition and culture. An educated person who can teach is Brahman. Laxmi ji you are a Brahman in my view but not bahun.
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Laxmi Tamang: Phurpa Hyolmo Thhongso here you go http://www.hinduwebsite.com/sacredscripts/hinduism/dharma/manusmriti.asp
"Introduction to the Manusmriti the laws of Manu by George Buhler"
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Phurpa Hyolmo Thhongso: Laxmi Di Jyu, is it the real one ?
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Laxmi Tamang: Yes, Hamanta bro I'm a Tamang Brahman ho
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Mitra Pariyar: Laxmi ji, what an utter nonsense. which fool said PhD upgrades my caste? Dr Ambedkar's wasnt upgraded even though he was chair of the constitution drafting committee. I dont want an upgrade either because I consider myself no less than any caste, I refuse the hierarchy. Your words suggest u firmly accept caste system and hierarchy.
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Laxmi Tamang: Phurpa Hyolmo Thhongso bro if you are in Nepal you can buy and read the original one but still in different Indian sites you can find it. We've to cross check with other Manusmriti as well because in some they have deleted some verses
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Hemant Mainali: I meant you are educating & spreading knowledge as of the time which are very relevant for us. So in true sanataan dharma you are a Brahman.
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Mitra Pariyar: Its not good to argue from the perspective of one scripture or author...there are hundreds of other views bettr than this Ahuti's. Is he a moden day Rishi?
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Yam B Chand: Laxmiji, Exactly, Hinduism doesn't normally takes outsiders into Varnasram. As per our priests anyone born outside can practice Hinduism, he can't get caste, but she can be a hindu if married to a hindu.
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Laxmi Tamang: Hehehe! Mitra Pariyar ji you are not in India and Nepal they are converting ni as author claimed not me. I'm just interpresting it. Though I didn't know anything about Manusmriti 2 years before but I always used to say to my Bahun Friends I'm a Tamang Bahun and they used to say the same thing to me Hemant Mainali bro
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Mitra Pariyar: Hemant ji, i recently read Dor Bahadur Bista's Fatalism and Development, where he says a similar thing. when Bahuns. sme, they were poor immigrants. The rulers of that time used Bahuns philosophies to keep the masses suressed - he says.
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Hemant Mainali: Mitra ji, bahun are still doing the same in name of politics. They left their religion now following the politics. Religion itself was a politics of ancient time as I understand & believe. Which made rules to the society and governance .
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Laxmi Tamang: To learn about your own caste Mitra Pariyar ji it is your duty to find out in depth and shared to us because as far as I know his article has been studying in Nepal by MA sociology and anthropology students. Indian scholars write up in the context of Nepal is not applicable as already stated by Yam B Chand sir for the Sanskritization of other castes/ethnicity in Nepal
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Phurpa Hyolmo Thhongso: I am really enjoying the discussion of scholars....
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Laxmi Tamang: Hemant Mainali ji I'm not going against Manusmriti and how I can go against it because that has taught me so many things and opened by Blocked eyds and mind regarding Caste and Gender Based Discrimination and others as well how the world has been created by Brahman who raped own daughter, Sarsawati. I'm just against those Who love to cling those outdated verses and still blindly practicing it without rationalizing it.
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Tenzing Limbu: हामी आफैमा हिनताको बोध नगरौ अरुले गर्न सक्ने काम हामी पनि गर्न सक्छौ मात्र हामीमा जाँगर र आत्मबिश्वास को खाँचो छ l सम्भावना प्रसस्तै छन् कल्पना गरेर मात्र पुग्दैन तेस्लाई पहल त गर्ने पर्छ l
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Yam B Chand: Hemantji/Mitraji, With reference to Late Dorbahadur Bista or otherwise, there are principally two types of real Brahmans in Nepal. First those real Brahmans who migrated from India and converted Malla Kings and their subjects, and second those who were before Shamanist Priests of Khas people, later converted to Hindu Bahuns. These converted Bahun's were more intelligent and also more cunning. Maharani Kausalyavati, mother of King PN Shah knew this so she secretly made Mishra Brahman, Guru for King PN Shah, so that Gorkha palace wouldn't have palace intrugues, but alas! At later time this fact was overlooked and Bahuns helped Jungbahadur to stage "Kotparva" and country went to dark era for a Century plus years and Nepali mass suffered like this.
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Laxmi Tamang: Yesterday Bashu Dev Lohani ji shared The Lecture delivered on 26 Feb. 2011 by Nicholas Kazanas at IIT, Madras.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyN0zs_tBRY ""The collapse of Aryan Invasion Theory and the prevalence of Indigenism. (1/3)" saying " The Hindus have tried to wipe out cultural identities of many ethnic groups in the Indian subcontinent, but I don't think the so called Aryans came from outside the Indian Subcontinent. The Aryans have been wrongly portrayed as a race due to European misappropriation of Sanskrit; they think anything that is beautiful must be theirs.
Hemant Mainali: The books of any religion is like constitution of today. Which sets rules to live by & awards rights & authority. But equally it seems very inhumane & outdated which true. But some still applies and relevant. Like our patents they may be old and not energetic but they made us knowledgeable & a good person.
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Laxmi Tamang: It is worth going through this lecture to know the deeper understanding of Sanskritization of India. Exactly! Hemant Mainali ji. That's WHY I love Secular nation
Whether we agree or disagree it is an individual choice.
BUT I firmly believe that We are the CAUSE of our own suffering and pain because we don't want to be hurted knowing the FACTS and TRUTHS!
To STOP/END the PAIN, Suffering, Crimes and Voilence related to Caste and Gender-based discrmination those people who think, feel, believe and experience that they are suffering they themselves FIRST need to CHANGE their belief system since they are the one who knowingly and unknowingly promoting their PAIN, Suffering, and Violences because they don't want to accept the facts and hurt on their belief system.
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Tenzing Limbu: Hemant ji I do agree it was their constitution and they were benefiting certain group or community. Modern constitution benefits the entire country and human rights.
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Laxmi Tamang: If human pain and suffering MUST END in this world then human being MUST STOP being too much religous because to date whatever, whereever and whenever power struggling and conflicts had taken place is directly connected with the POWER hungers POWERFUL WEAPON known as "RELIGION".
It seems as if a lot of the world's problems stem of that which is suppose to practice love and tolerance being a religious. However, througout history there has always been death, destruction and atrocities in the name of some lord "GOD" or another.
Does anyone think we will ever get to the point in society where religion is an afterthought? I am not trying to insult anyone's beliefs, but I am curious ......why believe?
I would like a more indepth analysis other than "you'd go to hell if you didn't". Appreciate any feed back......be kind! Thank you!!
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Tenzing Limbu: All pain is gain if it stops law of universe will stop then ??????
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Phurpa Hyolmo Thhongso: According to Ambedkar, Buddhism fulfilled these requirements and so among the existing religions it was the only suitable religion for the world. He felt that the propagation of Buddhism needed a Bible. Apparently, Ambedkar wrote The Buddha and his Dhamma to fulfill this need.
In the same article, Ambedkar has enumerated the evils of Hinduism in the following manner:
1. It has deprived moral life of freedom.
2. It has only emphasized conformity to commands.
3. The laws are unjust because they are not the same for one class as of another. Besides, the code is treated as final.
According to Ambedkar, "what is called religion by Hindus is nothing but a multitude of commands and prohibitions."
In the same year, Ambedkar delivered a speech on Buddha Jayanti day in Delhi, in which he attacked Hindu gods and goddess and praised Buddhism because it was a religion based on moral principles. Besides, he pointed out, unlike the founders of other religions who considered themselves emissaries of god; the Buddha regarded himself only as a guide and gave a revolutionary meaning to the concept of religion. He said that Hinduism stood for inequality, whereas Buddhism stood for equality.
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Phurpa Hyolmo Thhongso: "Why Dr. Ambedkar renounced Hinduism?" accessed from http://www.ambedkar.org/Babasaheb/Why.htm
Hemant Mainali: Tenzing ji, I can see Sai baba in your photo & my understanding & beliefs are similar & inspired by him. Specially uniting all religion.
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Yam B Chand: Laxmiji, I personally feel that Hinduism doesn't allow conversion, rather hindus made outcastes to so many royal castes to non-Hindus for not adhering to dayly practice of hindu rituals or refusing to pay royalties? to priests, like Yadav, Jat, Gujjars, Meena and so on (these all caste were royals before, but became non hindus). To say hindus wiped out ethnic culture may not be appropriate.
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Laxmi Tamang: One of the lawyers (Mr. Adhikari) while I was in Nepal suggested me reading "The Manab Nyaya Shastra" since it is the first codified law of Nepal. It was written during the Malla Dynasty, which is known to be the 5th dynasty of Nepal. It was written by King Jayasthiti Malla in the 14th century along with the help of five learned Indian Brahmin persons; Kirtinath Upadhyaya Kanyakubja, Raghunath Jha Maithili, Srinath Bhatta, Mahinath Bhatta, and Ramanath Jha. The Manab Nyaya Shastra was consequently written after the study of Manu Smriti, Yagyawalkya Smriti, Mitachhyara Tika, Brihaspati Smriti, Narad Smriti and other holy texts. It was written concentrating on the practices that prevailed in the society then. The Manab Nyaya Shastra has introduced many legal provisions regarding houses, lands, castes, dead bodies etc. It was the major source of rendering justice during the medieval period. Much influence of religion can be found in the laws then. Source: Khanal Rewatiraman,Nepal ko Kanuni Itihash ko Ruprekha
And based on Manab Nyaya Shastra our Muluki Ain has been written as he said that has copied and pasted Manusmriti verses
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Hemant Mainali: Yam ji, Hinduism has advanced & changed its old rules. You can find proper bahun & priest in Wales. They are proper white welsh people a whole villages is Hindu and practice and worship Kali, shiva, and all kind of temples are there.
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Laxmi Tamang: Hip Hip! Hurray! That's WHY I'm now standing to raise voice against those verses deeply rooted from the Law of Manu that promoted discrimination even in this 21st century
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Tenzing Limbu: All laws changes over the time why religious beliefs remain unchanged ?
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Laxmi Tamang :Hemant Mainali ji religions never ever going to unite. We've to unite ourselves. Our mind has to be unite
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Hemant Mainali :Uniting in understanding mutual respect and communal tolerances. A proper secularism.
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Laxmi Tamang: Tenzing Limbu ji it is due to FEAR of LOOSING POWER and BELIEF because that hurts our sentiment and deeply embedded belief
We've to have a faith on the Dharma of Natural Law NOT the man-made religion to control our MIND creating FEAR of HELL and HEAVEN. Please read visit "Scientists Prove That All Religious Books Are Man-Made Nonsense" from http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/sci_tech/3102-scientists-prove-that-all-religious-books-are-man-made-nonsense.html
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Hemant Mainali: We should read about our Nepali writer mr Subba about bhayabad. Which is very inspiring and greater knowledge of understanding our society.
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Yam B Chand: King Jayshiti Malla was not a Malla in reality, but a Prince of Tirhut married to sovereign Princess Rajalladevi Malla, as her father had no son. Naturally he brought all of these Brahmans from Tirhut and Mithila to design Manusmriti based 64 castes (I don't know what really this means) for Kathmandu valley. As I said Manusmriti was just misintreted at that time making 64 castes. and socondly Manusmriti was again misinterpreted when Muluki Ain of 1854, degrading every other castes than tagadharis.
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Laxmi Tamang: We can listen about Mr. Desh Subbha talk about FEARISM from here as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn8dM0c_law&feature=share
Yes, Yam B Chand sir many Newar think Jayshit Malla is a Newar but in reality he was a Chhetri from India
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Hemant Mainali: Yam ji , how did the name Nepal originated? I think it is Newari name. Cos my grands used to call Kathmandu by Nepal.
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Tenzing Limbu :Our modern science is not only truth, it cannot fully prove God and belief are wrong because universe is beyond the discovery of science and understanding . Therefore, I just like to say there are many possibilities anything I do not know.
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Laxmi Tamang :Always Little Knowledge is Danger Bhan thiyo ho rahe chha ba. Am realizing know. We've been making so many mistake blaming and claiming others without knowing the facts.
Hahahahaha! God! Oh Gosh! Who is a God! Who created a God!
All human being created him and said God! We all are God ourselves
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Tenzing Limbu: Well, little knowledge can be dangerous if we use but if we realize I have little knowledge then learning part is always open.
What is the full meaning of God ?
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Hemant Mainali: God is what you make of it. I believe in god itself is a suspicion of god. So nobody has found it. If god is the absolute truth what is the need to believe in. I believe in god because of the creation.
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Yam B Chand: Laxmiji, You are right. Kathmandu valley was in political turmoil at the time when Jayshiti Malla married Rajalladevi. Most of present day Newars (on FB) despise him as he gave them so many castes. It is not that Hinduism was not there in Kathmandu valley before King Jaysthiti Malla, but life was easier. There was a mix of Hinduism, Buddhism and Animism/Ghost worship, but after this new code they were virtually under Hindu priests.
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Tenzing Limbu: I believe God is a powerful thing which can manifest anything it can make anything happen.\
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Laxmi Tamang: Sanskritization of Newar community cleaver Indian Bahun/Chhetri not you guys hai. I believe myself as a god since I believe in evolution and nature and natural law. So far haven't seen anything made by god. I want to live in a reality not the fantasy and illusion and dellusion created by our belief and mind though I respect others views as well since it is a matter of individual choice
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Tenzing Limbu: I believe God is in dust to dust too. Laximi ji there are so many fantasy but we can see the action which happens but we cannot explain with our modern science.
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Laxmi Tamang :Hemant Mainali ji unfortunately Desh Subba book has not yet publish but he said he has address all the issues. I believe in science and spirituality not the man-made religion and God sorry hai because I believe in cause and effect relationship as per the natural law
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Yam B Chand :I also don't believe in God, but it is OK for most people to accept God's entity, as it is said empty mind is devil's workshop, and if people spend some of their spare time thinking about God, some bad thinking may be avoided, but this is only my opinion.
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Hemant Mainali: I only saw a bit of talk show which seemed a great knowledgeable person. As he was trying to explain Marxism in new way & betterway.
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Laxmi Tamang :For those who doesn't have anything to think in their mind is good to fill with filthy and other man's ideas I suppose, which are "Bhad" and "Religions" and God
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Tenzing Limbu :Laximi ji I agree with you religions are all law and order of those old days
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Laxmi Tamang: My MIND by birth is FREE so WHY I need to fill with all scraps
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Hemant Mainali: Yam B Chand ji plz my query about the name of our country.
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Laxmi Tamang: I use my brain and think as per my wish as per the nature gifted qualities learning from the nature
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Tenzing Limbu :As long as we do not harm nobody and deprive others rights that is good.
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Laxmi Tamang: Nepal is going backward and 250 years behind than developed nations like Japan, singapore, etc because people are more than unnecessariliy religious and same goes to India despite ruled by British more than 250 years they are still in STONE AGE thoughts
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Hemant Mainali :Laxmi ji, what goes in your mind does not depend entirely on you. So religion is important in some respect to teach you a lot of morale of our life. A baby is baby with education and right environment becomes a great person.
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Laxmi Tamang : If I can learn from Nature more than what has been written in religious books then WHY I've to hooked up with religion Hemant Mainali ji.
Because realized that Religious books have been written by intelligent mind learning from the nature understanding the POWER of FEMININE because by birth FEMINE is equal as Maculine in MIND not the body hai.
Thanks everyone within a hour we've very productive discussions on the topic starting from Plato qutoe 'Wine" and end up with Religion and God!
Hehehehe! while having discussion with you guys I was also having a chat with Desh Subba about his write up on "FEARISM"
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Hemant Mainali: Laxmi ji, you might find me funny but it is important to have some religion in life as it is the source of our human life & culture. Which sets a proper rule of morale values, marriage values & relationship value. So I do not follow religion to please god but practice to better my life.
Say hello from my side to desh subba people like him can bring greater change than politicians.
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Tenzing Limbu: आध्यात्मिक चिन्तन जीवन थाकेको बेला बिसाउने चौतारी हो
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Laxmi Tamang :Hemant Mainali ji I'm a non-religious person but respect all good verses of all religions but don't hooked up doing rituals based on religious norms. From the very childhood I was skeptical with religions and always had question is religion is for Rich and Male. Otherwise WHY poor can't afford to go to Temples and Why women are not priests
Tenzing Limbu ji आध्यात्मिक and Dharmic (Religious) are two different things ho and I LOVE the आध्यात्मिक part NOT the religion.
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Tenzing Limbu :When time comes we will understand the spiritual value
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Yam B Chand: OMG! Laxmiji, I was not saying about you and me, we both are non-believer in God. I was saying about people who want to believe in God, which means they at least do something when they think about God and spend their spare time. You and me have so many things to keep us busy all the time.
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Laxmi Tamang :Oh na hau Yam B Chand sir what I said that made you to "OMG"
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Tenzing Limbu: I am not religious but I love spiritual discovery .
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Hemant Mainali: Laxmi ji, if I call you Didi it is because of religion not because of my own belief. The human life is definitely attached to religious belief but we need to amend things as time progresses.
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Laxmi Tamang: Tenzing Limbu ji same me too
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Yam B Chand: Good verses as well principles of almost all religions are very attractive, but if you go deep, I think, all preach the same thing, fight for your religion, because yours is the supreme.
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Tenzing Limbu: Religions are the groups of political parties.
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Laxmi Tamang: Anyway, I love philogophical thoughts based on the nature and natural law and that is my religion not the made by men such as Buddhism, Hinduism, Christinanity, Islamic, Jewish, etc. Religions are made by POWER hungers to GENERATE FEAR among HUMAN being
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Tenzing Limbu: All religions are based on some truth but more law and order.
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Hemant Mainali: Spiritual belief is advanced belief & progression of religion. Where all corrupt beliefs are erased and but more purer.
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Laxmi Tamang: Cool Desh Subbha ji just shared his bolg http://www.fearism.blogspot.com
Tenzing Limbu There are many told and untold spiritual discoveries which is very independent and interesting. Tenzing Limbu ji "All religions are based on some truth but more law and order." It is not 100% true hai
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Heman Mainali: I think we need religion for our family rules and morale discipline. But spiritual is ultimate.
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Laxmi Tamang :Desh Subba ji said "You can see three books in the fesrism, many articles, kantipur daily, annapurna post daily, kantopur fm, bijayapur fm interviiew, other people has written many articles, only main book of fearism not publish. It will publish soon. now it is in sikkim university master degree course"
I love Spirituality and We generally mix up Spirituality and Religion which are different in reality but we are living in Fantasy and illusion and dellusion so thought they are same
Hemant Mainali ji Religion is to control ignorant and innocent mind ho. In Japan they don't have religion and my youngest sister-in-law is a Japanese ho to whom am I living here in Sydney
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Tenzing Limbu: As Hemant ji mentioned religion is only for moral and discipline family but we can enjoy on spiritual meditation.
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Laxmi Tamang: Hemant Mainali ji that moral (religion) is making our girls and dalit inhumane in India and Nepal
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Hemant Mainali: When I say something that is of my understanding but when I experience something new my belief may change. So far I believe religion is important to discipline our life. Where as spiritual is to let go and enjoy the eternal. I think.
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Tenzing Limbu: Hemant ji not bad idea I liked it ha ha ha
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Laxmi Tamang: In terms of development and evolution WHY India and Nepal being so much religious countreis can't produce great mind people who influence world thoughts and challenge their belief in a positive way except Buddha. I don't compare Gandhi because he studied in UK.
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Tenzing Limbu: Because of notorious Manu's theory I guess.
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Yam B Chand: Howabout Rabindra Tagore who refused Nobel Prize for Litreture, just because whites were ruling his country.
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Laxmi Tamang: It is so funny I've to Indian facebook friends one is a businessman and Manisha Koirala very close friend who knows detail about Islamic verses/allah being a Hindu and another one who is a Muslim knows every things about Hindu and Hindu gods. They don't debate among each other because they realized that they'll be both can't win due to the weaknesses in their religions. And I'm learning from both and now that my Hindu friend realized he has to do something for Humanity-Girls trafficking
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Laxmi Tamang: They are very hot in their arguments but Umesh ji Failed in his discussions
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Yam B Chand: Hemantaji, I am not sure about the origin of the name Nepal. Those believing Ne Muni say it is because of his name, but some say due to people Newars or Nairs, but there is no similarity between Keralite Nairs and our Newars. Newars sometimes say they are from Tibet and yet some others say they came from India. Buddhists say Valley was drained of water by Manjushree and Hindus say it was done by Lord Krishna with his Sudarshan Chakra. I am so confused.
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Laxmi Tamang Yam B Chand sir confusion is a starting point towards wisdom ho because we search for reasons and answers which is great
Anyway, I took the advantage from them because I used to say NO OPINION Please only facts, figures and evidences based on what we have and it also helped me to discuss about topic of my research as well as country issues that we've
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Hemant Mainali: So laxmi ji, how much your religion plays a part in your life? Do you conduct your life to some extent as of your religion or not?
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Laxmi Tamang: I strongly believe if Nepal can be made as a SPIRITUAL naton rather than HINDU nation We can be one of the best nation in terms of moral conduct and prosperity in the world
Religion doesn't play a single part in my life because I'm not a religious person. I used to distance my self from Lama guru and their religous ceremoniies at home or else always because I used to ask Question to them but they didn't answer my concern satisfactorily and I don't go to Mandir to worship. However, as a fun and tourist I go with my friends and mum sometime to give them accompany that's it
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Hemant Mainali: I agree with you laxmi ji, in ancient time Nepal was a spiritual place for sages and gods. Many rishi Maharishi have used Nepal as their spiritual meditating place.
So if a baby is born or marriage ceremony and such events how are these conducted?
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Laxmi Tamang: Spiritual person respects ALL religions BUT religious person they don't respect and accept all religions
Hemant Mainali ji in my family we don't do any such rituals. We are very progressive family. All 3 brothers married in their own ways and had their kids without Lamas gurus name giving. My mum aged 76 counts bid that's it we don't do yearly rituals as well. However, dad funeral had done with Lama from Tibetan and he was very progressive as well. Told my brothers if you can abstain from Water then don't eat salt because salt is the produce of ocean/sea (water). He suugested to us if you killed your Aatma then no good so if you feel like eating something you can eat no need to refrain. He also told us not to cry because for the death person Spirit to travel our TEARS will be like a Strome on its path because after death Spiriti is so ferzile and will creaate problem to go to heaven as he said so we didn't cry except sobbing.
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Yam B Chand: Yes Laxmiji, I can understand by your name, and you said your dad was in British army. I am a four generation Gorkha soldier and I have no different family background than most janjaati commenters here, but they think I am one of the ruling elite. My forefathers became Lahore for survival, as the whole country was Rana Oligarchy and who didn't suffer during those dark days?
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Hemant Mainali: Laxmi ji, religion is important for those reasons to keep the tradition and close family members in some order of respect & discipline. I totally respect your progressive life and not follow exactly of religious views. But like I said religion is important for disciplined life and keep the tradition of family and culture. Does not mean we can not be progressive and leave orthodox values.
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Laxmi Tamang: Hemant Mainali ji then WHAT do you think about Japan because Japanese people have much good moral and had great (disciplined) culture than any other people in the world. It depends upon individual how religious they are to answer your questions.
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Hemant Mainali: Well I can not speak about Japanese because I have no knowledge of them. But they do have religion,don't they? Japan is very rich culturally I guess. What is their cultural values based on?
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Yam B Chand: I think Japanese people also believe in Buddhist and Shinto culture. Foremost they believe in discipline, hardwork and patriotism. They also believe in seppeku and harakiri, which means they commit suicide if they fail their nation or their mission.
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Laxmi Tamang: Japanese are not religious people as far as I know that's why they respect all religions. However, they have influenced of both Buddhism and Christinanity. I believe on Cause and Effect relationship rather than Myths. So, I don't blindly follow and bel...See More
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Hemant Mainali: Yes I heard suicide is a major social issues in Japan as well as self harm. But I kind of believe a culture evolves from religious values. I think religion does not have to big and popular for cultural advancement. Japan's hard working and committed to it's mission culture got to be something to do with it's marshal art and warrior belief of ancient religion/culture.
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Laxmi Tamang: Suicide is a major problems of Japanese youths due to high competition. Has nothing to do with religion because in Nepal also suicide is in increasing trend. While talking about any issues we've to think holistically not in a sterotype way with our predetermined mindset. We've to be a FREE thinker to fully utilize our mind function
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Tenzing Limbu: Because of lack of spiritual practice.
Spiritual practice is the platform can help realise the reality and live with happiness,
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Laxmi Tamang: Exactly! Spirtual practice such as Meditation only can calm down our mind that creates happiness and satisfaction and peace in mind
We ususally say Today I've a Peace of Mind when we are satisfy
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Hemant Mainali: But how does a spiritual value originate? Such meditation and spiritual value evolved through Buddhism & Hinduism. I think.
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Tenzing Limbu: Creates hope and value of life
Meditation comes from anything we trust.
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Laxmi Tamang: As far as I know Siddhartha Gautam being a King son from Chhetri clan got all the knoweldge of Veda from Brahmin thus went to search the answers for human pain and suffering and tried each and every means as said in Veda and else holy scriptures but couldn't find answers. Thus decided to go for Meditation and got the wisdom and answers of pain and suffering. This meditation is called Vipassana and western world and pyschologist named it "Mindfulness"
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I learned about Mindfulness here at the University with psychologist so funny
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Tenzing Limbu: Buddha he learnt by pain and suffering while did his meditation (deep research) and he realized the theory of " Realize the reality and live with happiness"
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Hemant Mainali: Yes but how did meditation come to be popular and successful. Because it was taught by Hindu religion budhhist religion. So spirituality in religion must happen which means a purer form of religion. To think of inner soul itself is finding peace & happiness.
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Tenzing Limbu: Religion they used part of spirituality to engage the people in religion.
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Laxmi Tamang: Heheehe! Hemant Mainali ji your MIND has been preoccupied by religion. Your mind is not FREE hai
Nepal has to make a spiritual world rather than religous hub because spiritual attracts everyone and religion distance everyone
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Hemant Mainali: Why is Dalai Lama not wanting to be like a politician? Because he is a spiritual guru & his way of ruling is by religion. Which seems very good so far no discrimination as I heard.
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Tenzing Limbu: If you contemplate history of spirituality all sages they meditated in Nepal from Vedic time.
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Laxmi Tamang: Hemant Mainali ji as far as I know in Hindu they talk about soul but in Buddhism they talk about Spirit
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Tenzing Limbu: Soul and spirit they are two words but they are same .
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Laxmi Tamang: Hemant Mainali ji Dalai Lama is not a spiritual leader though people say. In reality he is a politician and a King of Tibet and religous leader thus used Buddha philosophy as a Weapon to fight against China luring the ignorant mind of th world.
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Laxmi Tamang: In the history almost all kings used Religions as a WEAPON to fool, bull and rule over innocent and ignorant mass because reason can wash people mind so easily creating FEAR of HELL and HEAVEN
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Tenzing Limbu: In fact I agree with Laximi ji
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Hemant Mainali: I am not talking about Hinduism but all religion. I have strong belief in religion because all religion teaches to be good and humane. But we must keep our religion practicing to keep our values intact. If we give up religion all together it is not going to do good. A gradual change must come but life without religious values may not be a good thing. This applies to all religion.
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Laxmi Tamang: I don't have any faith on Dalai Lama because he lied about Buddha birth place to cheer up India where he is living as a refugee. However, I admire his wisdom
Spiritual people they never ever lie and speak the truth based on the available facts and natural law without any FEAR without manipulating ignorant mind to fool, bull and rule over them. They are not greedy and selifish
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Hemant Mainali: Spiritual people become spiritual because of what laxmi ji? A religion plays a vital role to make one spiritual.
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Tenzing Limbu: Laximi ji I just want to share my experience about Dalai Lama miracle happened with me numbers of years ago. One day I was driving in busiest high way in Canada suddenly I was blacked out and I could not see anything suddenly "Om mane padme hum" it came out from my mouth and I have seen vision of Dalai Lama out of blue and after sometime my vision came back. Those days I had sickness of dizziness it just use to pop out without knowingly. Since that incident I do not have that sickness and I consider him one of my guru.
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Laxmi Tamang: Free minds without any prejudice trying to understand truths for humanity and peace learning from the natural laws praticing mental calmness exercise i.e. meditation make them spiritual I suppose. Hemant Mainali ji try to find out in Sanatan Dharma most of the verses you can see written based on the natural law. Tell me how made natural law and who made religions
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Hemant Mainali: A free mind is important to be spiritual. The way I understand is religion is a seed &spiritual is a fruit. If you don't have a religion to be based on there is no spirituality. I think.
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Laxmi Tamang: After 1000 years people might consider Dalai Lama as a God like people consider Buddha as a God though Buddha said he was not a God but an awaken person
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Tenzing Limbu: We are so use to base religion with spirituality therefore it may take us time to free our mind from our daily practice. Buddha is considered a God because of his good did I guess.
I am not Buddhist and my religion is universal I do respect good things in all religions and I do not have any obligation in any religion but my incident with Dalai Lama is something miracle to me.
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Laxmi Tamang: It is just the other way around ho Hemant Mainali bro. To understand and learn about spirituality is not an easy task because it is the path of Truth to understand and founds fantasy thus many people don't like to talk about spirituality. However to talk about the religion is like an opium as said by Karl Marx because people are mostly neurotic in their attitude and behavour love to follow easy path because everything has been ready made.
I'm not a religious nor I'm a Buddhist. I'm learning to be a Free thinker that's it because I love learning and understanding the reality
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Hemant Mainali: Laxmi ji, is being spiritual means what?
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Laxmi Tamang: Tenzing Limbu ji it is due to his positive vibe that's attracted your mind
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Tenzing Limbu: Hemant ji spirituality means ease the stress of life by understanding truth and remain happy.
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Laxmi Tamang: True spiritual people in any cost can't be Negative and Can refrain self from any luxury of modern world. However religious gurus they can't thus we frequently hear their attitude and behavior connected with SEX and Sexual scandals. Religious gurus are after MONEY and CROWD but spiritual leaders are after peace and satifaction and happiness of all. I hope you know the Law of Attraction based on the natural law Tenzing Limbu ji.
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Tenzing Limbu: My truth with Dalai Lama was I was never impressed before this incident.
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Hemant Mainali: Yes to be such spiritual person the knowledge & wisdom must be based on religion. If there was no religion & godly value . Spirituality would not exist. I may be wrong but my poor belief.
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Tenzing Limbu: My belief in spirituality consist of all universal actions therefore, how a spiritual person can stay away from the physical reality ?
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Laxmi Tamang: Hemant Mainali bro, Umesh ji sanga mit lagaudha hunchha hai because you couldn't free your mind despite being an educated man knowing about many issues. We've to learn to make our mind like of a Child (free mind) only then we can pour anything in our brain/head. Spirituality is a highest form of self (mental state/mind) awakening of human being ho so hardly very few people are spiritual in this world.
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Hemant Mainali: Yes laxmi ji, hence I am questioning like a child. I want to learn & being a Hindu follower it's difficult probably.
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Laxmi Tamang: All religious gurus, monks, nuns, priests, etc are not spiritually awaken and mostly they are involve in religious politics.
Have you ever heard of Spiritual politics but we heard and read about religious politics. Religion is all about POWER and POLITICS to control mass and their mind as per the interest of the state and ruling mentality people
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Tenzing Limbu: Many may be involved unknowingly with blind faith too.
Spirituality is the wisdom and people may use that for their any means of benefit.
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Laxmi Tamang: I've one of my friends who is doing a PhD Ms. Kafle at Banaras Hindu University and I learned a lot from her as well about spirituality. She is completely against religion and related rituals but am not like that.
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Tenzing Limbu: well, it depends on individual we all are not in same plane
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Laxmi Tamang: The incidents of crimes related to SEX, Drugs, Alcohol, etc can be controlled massively if we teach our children from schools about spirituality rather than from home to become a religious and Nepal can give a good education to the world I suppose. We'll have peace and prosperity in a diverse settings
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Tenzing Limbu: If we try it might work.
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